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Huffers 8:49 Thu Sep 19
FENSA Certificate
Absolutely the worst place to ask but it also seems like the best.

I had a substantial extension built on a house a couple of years ago and at the same time had new windows throughout, which includes replacing the existing ones.

The windows were purchased from a FENSA accredited company but fitted by someone else. I am now selling the house and the buyer's solicitors are asking for the certificate (probably as standard).

I have a Building Regulations cert but that doesn't specifically state windows, although its surely obvious the new part of the house had its windows signed off at least.

I will look into things properly tomorrow but in the meantime, does anyone have any experience of obtaining a retrospective FENSA certificate?

Thanks

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Hermit Road 9:11 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
They're just trying to get a few quid off the asking price. Tell them you havenr got one and the price you want is still the price you want.

Hermit Road 9:12 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
Then wipe your appendage on them, the estate agent and their lawyer.

hammer205 9:22 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
Sent you who mail

mallard 9:33 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
It’s the FENSA accredited Installers that supply them.

The old c wing 9:37 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
As far as I’m aware building control overrides the need for a fensa certificate - from former solicitor questionnaires I’m sure they ask for either.

Either way, the worst case scenario is you can offer to pay indemnity insurance, which would cover your buyer in the event that the council ever tell them that they need to rip the windows out. This cost us around £50 for a roof replacement that I was unaware needed BC approval, when we sold about 5 years ago.

But the point is that the council won’t ask them to rip the windows out as you have BC certificate. Tell your solicitor to get off his fat sweaty arse and explain this to the buyers solicitors.

Huffers 9:40 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
Thanks for the replies. I've seen online that you can also get the council to come out and sign them off if you didn't obtain a FENSA cert at the time.

The old c wing 9:46 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
Huffers, it would probably be cheaper to do the indemnity thing, ask your solicitor to get a quote and they will set it up for you if needed. BUT if you have a completion certificate from BC that would imply they are ok anyway?

Huffers 9:49 Thu Sep 19
Re: FENSA Certificate
Thanks, I will ask them tomorrow re: that.

I hope the BC cert will be enough anyway. All internal walls in the house were knocked down at the time of extending, so technically the cert should cover all the windows I guess?

RichyP 1:13 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
I sold a flat last December that i’d had replacement windows put in throughout. I didn’t have a FENSA certificate which tge buyers solicitor had requested so i paid about £100 for indemnity insurance and the sale went through with no issues

Huffers 10:36 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
Thanks - I am going down the route of the BC Cert should suffice and will await their reply.

w4hammer 10:49 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
have you tried FENSA- as I recall they centrally hold records of installers and installations...

Huffers 10:51 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
The fitter wasn't FENSA accredited so there is no record of the fitting. Thanks

Russ of the BML 11:09 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
Have had this situation twice before. On both occasions windows were supplied and fitted by a friend who is not FENSA accredited and so got no FENSA certificate. Our solicitor organised a £50 insurance so that if the buyer is told the builders aren't the right spec and need to come out then this insurance covers that. But was told each time the likelihood of that is almost zero.

It's just a big con. At the end of the day you could, as others have said, just say there is no FENSA certificate and if you want the gaff then fucking buy it. if you don't then sod and off we will move on. That will get them to move on sharpish.

Or do what we did and pay the £50. To be fair in the grand scheme of things when it comes to property its fuck all and covers you and so you get peace of mind.

Manuel 11:14 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
So it's 'absolutely the worst place to ask' yet you have had a lot of good feedback?

Prat.

Russ of the BML 11:16 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
Manuel 11:14 Fri Sep 20

he did say 'but its also the best'.

I think its because some days you get cunted off and asked if you have wiped your knob on the screen and others you get the info.

WHO is a place that operates on the current mood of posters.

SecondOpinion 11:25 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
Good accurate answers here. We had the same problem with ONE window that didnt have a FENSA certificate. Told the buyers to get on with it and they did

penners28 12:30 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
If the fitter wasnt fensa accredited then I think there is your answer pal....

Huffers 1:07 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
That wasn’t my question, pal. Are you Manuel in disguise?

Driz 1:11 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
1) https://www.fensa.org.uk/fensa-certificate (find if they were registered)

2) Offer an indemnity policy - your solicitor will explain - this is the fastest and cleanest way to address this.

3) Contact your local authority and get them out to inspect and issue a letter/cert advising they comply with current regs.


Do option 2.

Driz 1:12 Fri Sep 20
Re: FENSA Certificate
To be fair, if they were fitted as part of an extension and you have a completion certificate, this enquiry is a it BS.

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